This post by Nicolas Reid was originally published on Linked in. It is republished here with permission.

Gondolas are often in the news, with manufacturers of ropeway systems proposing them as a modern option for mass transit systems in New Zealand. However, like every next big thing in transport, it’s hard to separate the marketing hype from the reality.  I recently took a trip on the Maokong Gondola in Taipei, which helped me test some of these assumptions and put some perspective on the usefulness of gondolas for public transport.

Originally used to climb mountains and span waterways, gondolas are increasingly being put forward as alternatives to typical urban transit solutions like buses and trains, even where there aren’t steep hills or valleys to traverse. This is because ropeway technologies (variously called gondolas, cable cars and aerial tramways, among other things) offer some tantalising potential benefits for public transport.

  • The most visible potential comes from the fact that gondolas are suspended in the air, which suggests they can run direct from point to point, sailing over ground level traffic and congestion, and avoiding the need to repurpose street space or acquire land to build guideways.
  • Another benefit is their near-infinite service frequency, with a continuous string of cabins running a headway measured in seconds rather than minutes. Catching a Gondola is more like using an elevator than waiting for a bus.
  • Likewise, the constant cable loop means that a gondola trip should be fast and direct without slowing for intermediate stops, which should result in high passenger capacity. Proposals for eight- or ten-seater cabins departing every twenty or thirty seconds suggest a line capacity of several thousand people per hour.
  • Finally, gondolas offer the potential for highly automated operations.  The cabins are driverless, being ‘driven’ by the cable mechanism, which suggests low staffing costs and the potential to run very high frequency departures right across the day and evening.

Back to Taipei, the Maokong Gondola is a good example of a real-world application of a ropeway system in a mass transit configuration, and on paper it offers a lot of benefits.  While it does span mountains, this Taiwanese Gondola line is more than a conventional mountain cable car. It runs from a station of the Taipei metro system to the touristy hill town of Maokong, via two intermediate stations serving a dense residential neighbourhood and a temple complex. At 4.03km length it is very long, and it features four stations in total, so it is more of a transit line than a point-to-point shuttle.

The Maokong gondola climbs 300m over 4km

My first impression was that, while the aerial views were spectacular, the elevated route was certainly less than ideal for a transit corridor. In Taiwan, like most places, land ownership is complex and you can’t simply string a gondola line over private properties without buying the land or air rights. In practice most run over public waterways, parks or reserves, which means they’re often located on indirect alignments and less useful for urban transit than it might appear. The Maokong Gondola isn’t a straight line, rather it follows a zig zag path which seems to be based on avoiding private land and locating stations and pylons in places where it was feasible to build them. This is obvious with the main city side station, where the gondola terminus is actually 400m walk away from the connecting metro station that shares its name.

The route is indirect, but not as bad as the mountain road

There’s no escaping the need to buy land and build multi-level station buildings and towers, which is clear in the Taipei example. This line has four stations, two further angle change stations where the cabins change cables, and 47 support pylons.  That’s a lot of infrastructure.

So what about the staffing levels? Well. despite the “automated” operation, many staff were active operating the crowded line with queues of passengers stretching out of the station and up the street. The line was very crowded for my trip, which was at peak time during a very busy holiday weekend. So, it was a good test of real-world performance under high demand like you might expect at peak times on a mass transit line.

At the end station there were two staff selling tickets, three more managing the fare gates and queues, and another two staff allocating passengers to cabins on the platform. There was a further staff member managing the lift of the multi-level station, keeping it free for wheelchair and pram users and sending most people up the stairs. Presumably there were several more staff at the other stations, and at least one in a control room somewhere. Altogether, there must have been at least a dozen people running the gondola line. So much for automation!

The four storey tall base station

In terms of speed, the gondola took 22 minutes to go from end to end for my ride, which equates to 12 km/h for the 4.03km line. This is not very fast, equal to a local bus crawling in heavy traffic. In the mountain context it is undoubtedly quicker than the winding route a bus would need to follow to cross the hills and valleys, but it’s a fraction of what a surface rapid transit line usually achieves with dedicated lanes in a city environment.

I timed the headway as one cabin departing every 45 seconds, despite the long queues showing demand for more frequency. This is indeed very frequent for a transit line, but only about half the throughput of the supposed “every 20 seconds” that I see in Gondola marketing. I can only assume that crowding or other operational factors were limiting the real world frequency to 80 cabins per hour each way.

Capacity wise, each cabin has eight seats but in practice the utilisation was low. Despite the long queues, the staff sorting groups into cabins weren’t forcing passengers into every seat in every cabin. I guess there was concern about people being trapped with strangers in a small space for over twenty minutes. Groups of four or five people travelling together got their own cabin, as did anyone with a wheelchair or pram, while they did pair up groups of two or three to share, but not more. In effect the gondolas were running as private cabins, with very little public sharing of the vehicles going on. All up, I estimated the average occupancy was about four and a half people per cabin even under peak conditions, about half the theoretical capacity.

Staff loading passenger groups into cabins

So what does this all mean for the capacity of the line? Well, during that busy peak demand period, there were running 80 gondola cabins per hour each way, and loading an average of 4.5 people on each, which means the functional maximum capacity of this Gondola line was only 360 people per hour. That’s about the same as a normal bus route running double decker bus every fifteen minutes, and a fraction of the capacity of a busway or light rail line.

It’s also far far lower than the 3,600 people per hour claimed in some proposals for urban transit gondolas. Working back on the maths, it seems these capacity claims are based on ten people in every cabin, and a cabin coming every ten seconds. Maybe this is achievable somewhere, but it certainly wasn’t being done in Taipei.

Passengers queuing up through the station…
…and round the block

There is one thing with gondolas I could never get my head around: if they have such high frequency and run so regularly, why do I always end up waiting long queue to board one?

I think the answer to that lies in the concept of latency. While gondolas have practically no waiting time with very frequent headways, and very short dwell times at the platform, gondolas have a latency in access. They have a lag in boarding that comes from using evenly spaced vehicles of low capacity and loading them one at a time.

As an example of that, if you have 100 people at a busy bus stop, a double decker can pull up, load everyone on board and be underway again in less than 60 seconds. There’s very little lag in that equation. But if you’ve got 100 people who want to ride the on the Maokong gondola, it will take seventeen minutes to load them, four or five people at a time, into gondola cabins that come once every 45 seconds. At the connecting metro station, it’s perfectly conceivable that a hundred passengers could arrive on a single metro train, and take more than a quarter hour to transfer to the stream of gondola cars. Because they’re evenly distributed along the cable there’s not really any way to change that. Meanwhile, with a bus line it’s a trivial thing to schedule the bus to meet the metro train and transfer everyone across within a minute or two.

I’ve got two takeaways from this experience. Firstly, manufacturers’ claims of maximum capacity and speed for any flavour of transit system need to be taken with a grain of salt. If someone says X can do Y, the reply should be “show me where it actually does this”.

But overall, it’s clear that cableway transit is something that works well where it works well (like climbing mountains), but it’s not a replacement for most regular bus or rail transit routes. It’s a niche option, and that niche seems even smaller than you might think.


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  1. Always look forward to the quarterly article in Stuff promoting a Gondola, hydro foiling ferries and an old classic which hasn’t come around for a while the wonderful flying taxi.

    Just build 24×7 bus lanes with intersection priority, it really isn’t too hard.

  2. They are not 10 person gondolas,

    They were 8, but they retrofitted 20% into “Crystal cabins” with fancy glass floors , the weight restricts them to 5 persons per car, – This is basically a tourist attraction, rather than a transit route.

    “Total 147 cabins,including 31 crystal cabins (Eyes of Maokong Gondola). Each regular cabin is designed to carry eight passengers. A crystal cabin (Eyes of Maokong Gondola) can carry no more than five passengers, because its base of reinforced glass weighs more than 200 kilograms.”

    https://english.gondola.taipei/cp.aspx?n=6D76903BDB902EED&s=722A143196D8554E

    Also the reason there were lots of staff is that Taiwan has a low minimum wage of around $10/hour..
    (also as a share of GDP per cap its only 33%, whereas in NZ the minimum wage is around 75% of GDP per capita)

    1. Hi Greenwelly, I did say “each cabin has eight seats but in practice the utilisation was low”. Sure the crystal cabins have even less, which brings the average down to 7.4 seats, but it’s kinda irrelevant because they don’t fill up either the regular or glass bottomed cabins.

      I’m not sure that the low minimum wage is the factor there. The buses in Taipei had driver only operation, the metro didn’t have staff at the gate lines or managing queues (probably because they were very small, and people managed loading into metro trains very easily), in fact the metro line leading to the gondola appeared to be fully automated. In fact I had a hard time finding a staff member at Taipei central to direct me to the right platform, only at the ticket booth. If low minimum wage resulted in high staffing levels wouldn’t you expect to see that over the other modes of transport too?

      1. The fact there were lots of staff implies hat the Gondola was being run as a tourist attraction and therefore could afford to have mare staff than the metro which was obviously running as a transit service,

        1. I don’t think any company runs more staffing than they need, especially a private operator with a tourism focus. It’s not like any of them were idle.

          To me it seems obvious they had lots of staff is because they needed them to manage the masses queuing customers, load allocation into cabins, and safe boarding.

  3. Great work in this and it confirms all of our suspicions. They are great on mountains and for tourists but poor for public transport.

  4. I agree with this. I have travelled in Colombia and Turkey on Gondola systems, plus a few ski fields in my younger days when I wasn’t allergic to the cold.
    They are marvels of tourism, but useless as far as moving any serious number of persons.

    Trains remain the best solution, in Auckland our ferries are a geographical advantage that helps not necessarily everybody in our city, and buses are an undeveloped, third world solution to a problem that should have never existed. Perhaps this explains why so many bus drivers are from foreign lands.

    *I do not intend to be racist with this commentary, bus driving is a highly skilled and difficult occupation and I have a lot of respect for anyone driving a large vehicle, as I rely entirely upon the public transport network to move myself and my tamariki.

    The CRL will prove if we can save our city from ourselves, and our dedication to fossil fuel powered metallic bubbles; or we JAFAs are intent on ignoring climate change and burying our heads further in our personal car radios.

    bah humbug

    1. Bus drivers come from “foreign lands” because our immigration system is set up to funnel in low-paid workers in huge numbers so that our lazy businesses don’t have to worry about increasing wages for locals instead

    2. “buses are an undeveloped, third world solution ”

      Really? London and Paris have fleets of over 9,000 buses. Amsterdam’s buses carry 44 million passengers a year and in 2019 300 million Danes caught a bus.

      1. Nothing wrong with buses. They are the backbone of many successful PT networks. You might be confused with those that have to share space with cars, rather than having priority.

    3. Only bus driver I know of personally had an MA, pretty much funded by the bus driving. Just as the first taxi driver I knew personally ended up MBChB PhD DSc. Never patronise your PT operator!

  5. In Auckland I could think of only something like Hobsonville-Greenhithe-Birkenhead that would maybe make sense and then only if by some miracle of Jebus it was because there was a rail or busway station in Greenhithe to get people to quickly

    1. I’ve spent more than a casual minute trying to figure out where a gondola line might work in Auckland, but there doesn’t seem to be any point-to-point route over water or another geographic barrier with moderate but not high demands and no need to ramp up for peaks (and where there isn’t stacks of privately owned property below).

      The best I could come up with was Freemans Bay to Karangahape station over the motorway to link the two sides of Beresford Street. But uh… huge cost to replace half of the route 106 bus, and if anything I think a footbridge with a lift would do better.

    2. I think you are right, and would have to pick a couple of key spots where point to point over a water way or hilly area.

      Beach Haven Wharf to Catalina bay could be 600 m cableway, vs 16km via bus. I always looked at Stanmore Bay Whangaparaoa to Stillwater as a narrow waterway with hill on either wise that would suit a cable way or other elevated solution other than a massive road bridge

      But in reality, given the fixed cost overhead of the cableway, you need a volume of people; like in Taiwan going to tourist attractions, otherwise you can just use ferries. And you need stations and other linked mass transport to get people to/from the start/end gondola station. A few hundred or even a few thousand local people are not going to be enough to make a expensive cableway viable

      I hate to suggest it, but by the time you make the individual gondolas bigger and faster, and replace the wire ‘ropes’ with a beefed up steel structure between pylons to support those bigger/faster cabins, you end up with a suspended monorail like the H-Bahn.

      Queue the monorail song.

      1. Beach Haven Wharf to Catalina Bay already has a ferry, it would be far easier and cheaper to run a punt ferry back and forth than build a gondola line!

        In either case, Hobsonville is a dense neighbourhood with reasonable destination demand, but the Beach Haven side is a tiny catchment of suburban houses and hardly a local dairy nearby.

        Stanmore Bay to Stillwater is getting a bridge built right now!

        1. Yeah, getting enough people to the start and from end points of a gondola seems to be an issue that discounts their use where it may almost work well.

    1. Palmerston North once had a proposal – linking Massey University and the CBD, via Fitzherbert Ave and going over the river.

      https://www.gondolaproject.com/2010/09/01/palmylink-update/

      Ther was also a commuter proposal for Queenstown and a pilot is being built this year.

      https://lwb.co.nz/content/whoosh-around-town-queenstown-transport-pilot-features-gondola-like-pods/

      In terms of Auckland, I could see out it spanning waterways, like out east (Beachlands-Half-Moon Bay-Glen Innes/St Helliers) or somewhere like Paremoremo-Greenhithe-Hobsonville point-Te Atatu Peninsular-Point Chev and into the Viaduct).

      But yeah, unlikely…

      1. Especially as all it takes to physically build new bus lanes, is a few signs, and pots of paint.
        The problems here, are in the political noise created by entitled car drivers, and motoring vested interests, in claiming “their roads are being stolen by leftie cyclists, public transport riding peasents, and general car haters.

    2. Very dated when it starts the sell sentence with; “Panoramic views unfold…” Nowadays everyone’s attention is on their phone not the real world unfolding outside windows.

    3. From the Skycabs website:
      “We invite you to view our SkyCabs ESGART system, a breakthrough in passenger transport design. Elevated Small Group Automated Rapid Transport (ESGART)”

      Surely it can’t be a coincidence that ESGART nearly spells ESCARGOT… French for snail ?

  6. Shows that they could have a good purpose if the capacity is right but they’re hard to scale up compared to a bus system with some right of way – just up the frequency of the buses.

  7. Riddiculous idea for public transport and who wants a condola of nosey people peering down onto there houses all day and night, crack pot idea not even worth thinking about. Just get on and build some decent busways using bi articulated buses and where necessary extend the heavy rail.

  8. I did a article about gondolas a couple of years ago and looked at options for Auckland, didn’t find many that really worked

    https://blog.darkmere.gen.nz/2021/09/auckland-gondolas-practical-or-a-rope-to-nowhere/

    Pretty much agree with the points in this article. It’s okay over difficult terrain (and fairly cheap) but big ceiling on capacity and fairly slow so longer distances start losing to buses.

    BTW the ultimate bad Gondola is the one for Dodger Stadium. Completely unsuited to thousands of fans all turning up at once to get into or leave a game.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Aerial_Rapid_Transit

  9. Gondolas back into Fiorldland must be on the cards with the fast track (enviro bypass) quick tick legislation now passed..

    These wired wonders seem to be a quick fix for closing gaps in networks – Across Auckand harbour for pedestrians seems to be an obvious fit.

    If we cant fund or get walking and cycling or busses working, gondola’s start looking good. It doesnt solve the delivery problem, that is – actually doing something !

    1. What does this solve that busses don’t already? I can’t imagine a gondola line running 24/7 without issues. I would rather have more reliable night busses (like until 2 am or so)

  10. Well of course Christchurch has their Gondola which is solely a tourist attraction build before the Cruise Ship boom in Christchurch so it starts at the bottom of the wrong side of the hill. The cruise ship passengers get bussed through the tunnel from Lyttelton, Gondolled up & down the hill and then bused onto their next attraction.
    A few hardy ones will walk the 1,000m back down to their boat.
    I’ve always wondered why there hasn’t been a push to put a second line on the Lyttelton side.

  11. Perhaps we could have a human cannon set up in Hobsonville and a big net in Beachhaven. You might have to weigh people before they get in to make sure the spring is tensioned correctly.

    1. Or save a step with a numerically controlled cannon which weighs the passenger itself and also transmits the result to the winches controlling tension on the net at the other end.

  12. I recall many years ago there was a proposal to put a gondola from downtown Auckland somewhere across to Birkenhead. I cant recall if it started from the City side of the Harbour Bridge, and if so, how did it cross the Bridge. There was going to be an island built in the harbour to accommodate it.
    Obviously nothing came of this, but does anyone have any recollection of that proposal or details of it?

  13. Once you run out of street level space, public transportation is the most viable option for moving to another level because it already operates with limited stops. All other modes need access to every single property on the road.
    In this situation, buses are probably already at capacity, so whatever you choose needs to move more people than buses do. Which would seem to exclude gondolas, since their cabins don’t come in double decker bus size.
    And the only mode that allows you to stray from the road corridor is underground tunnelling. Which is probably why that is what we mostly do.

  14. Two comments.
    1. The gondola in Taipeh seems be a tourist attraction by itself and less optimized for moving as many people as possible, but that’s fine. In Latin America there are several transit solutions https://www.doppelmayr.com/en/press/doppelmayr-ropeways-on-track-for-success-in-latin-america/. It might be worth to dig into these data. Also New York has a gondola connecting Roosevelt Island with Manhattan.

    2. Why using a double decker for the comparison? They have two main disadvantages compared to articulated buses, which have roughly the same capacity.
    The boarding times are at least twice as long, two door vs four doors and no climbing required. And most of the seating is upstairs. However everybody who I would offer my seat, is not going to climb up.

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